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## Get back your Childhood-Retro-Gaming-Experience
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**(without a hassle!)**
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A Talk in 640x480
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<span style="color:cyan">zeus@ctdo.de</span>
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**ChaosBBQ2018**
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---
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### Why the Hassle?
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+ Retrogaming is Fun!
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+ Show the Kids how to play the "Right Way"
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+ Nostalgia
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+ Learning about Technology
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+ Having fun while fixing Things
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+ Input Lag
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+ Un-Archiveable with most modern Games
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Notes:
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...some of the AAA-Titles unfortunately
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more on input-lag later
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### What we're dealing with?
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+ Everything from Nintendo
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+ Everything from Sony
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+ Everything from Sega
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+ Everything from Microsoft
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+ ...and early Homecomputer-Predecessors
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### Homecomputer-Era:
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+ Commodore PET/C64/C128
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+ Amiga 500
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+ Atari (Several)
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen0-c64.png" -->
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Commodore-64-Computer-FL.png - cc0
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### Gen 1:
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+ Magnavox Odyssey
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+ Pong
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+ Telstar
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen1-pong.png" -->
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:TeleGames-Atari-Pong.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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### Gen 2:
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+ Atari 2600
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+ Vectrex
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+ Sega SG-1000
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen2-vectrex.png" -->
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Vectrex-Console-Set.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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### Gen 3:
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+ Nintendo NES/FamiCom
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+ Sega Master System
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen3-nes.png" -->
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:NES-Console-Set.png - cc0
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### Gen 4:
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+ Sega Mega Drive/Genesis
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+ SNES
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+ Neo Geo
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Note:
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Japanese_Mega_Drive_%2B_Mega.png - cc0
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### Gen 5:
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+ Sega Saturn
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+ Nintendo 64
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+ Sony PlayStation
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+ Atari Jaguar
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen5-n64.png" -->
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:N64-Console-Set.png - cc0
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### Gen 6:
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+ Sega Dreamcast
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+ Sony PlayStation 2
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+ Nintendo GameCube
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+ Microsoft Xbox
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:PS2-Versions.png - cc0
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### Gen 7:
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+ Microsoft Xbox 360
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+ Nintendo Wii
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+ Sony Playstation 3
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<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/consoles/gen7-xbox360.png" -->
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Xbox-360-Consoles-Infobox.png - cc0
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### Gen 8:
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+ Microsoft Xbox One
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+ Nintendo Wii U
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+ Sony Playstation 4
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+ Ouya
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Wii_U_Console_and_Gamepad.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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### Gen 9:
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+ Nintendo Switch
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+ Sony PlayStation 4 Pro
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+ Microsoft Xbox One X
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nintendo_Switch_Console.png - cc0
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### Handheld Consoles
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...were absolutely dominated by Nintendo
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By now, Nintendo rules Handheld-Market since around 30 Years!
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Notes:
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even thou the lynx and gamegear were technically superior
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Note:
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Game_%26_Watch.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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Note:
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Game-Boy-FL.png - cc0
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Atari-Lynx-I-Handheld.png - cc0
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Sega-Game-Gear-WB.png -cc0
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Note:
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Game_boy_pocket.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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Note:
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Game-Boy-Color-Purple.png - cc0
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Nintendo-Game-Boy-Advance-Milky-Blue-FL.png - cc0
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Game-Boy-Advance-SP-Mk1-Blue.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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Note:
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Game-Boy-Micro.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nokia_N-Gage.png - cc-by-sa-3.0
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### ...And the Nintendo DS of course
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+ DS, DS Lite
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+ DSi, DSi XL
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+ 3DS, 3DS XL
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+ 2DS
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+ New 3DS, New 3DS XL
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+ New 2DS XL
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### One more to Note
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Before I Forget:
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Sony also made some Handheld-Devices:
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+ PlayStation Portable (PSP)
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+ PlayStation Portable Go (PSP Go)
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+ PlayStation Vita (PS Vita/PSV)
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Current competitors are primarily Android and iOS Devices
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### The 4 Ways of doing it:
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**Emulators**<!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="2" -->
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<span style="color:red">Buuuuhhh! ✗</span><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="2" -->
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**Play on original HW** <!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="3" -->
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<span style="color:green">The Real Deal ✓</span><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="3" -->
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</span>
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**Play on Clones** <!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="4" -->
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<span style="color:yellow">The Awkward Way ✓/✗</span><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="4" -->
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</span>
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**Play on modified HW** <!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="5" -->
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<span style="color:green">The Hacker's Way ✓✓✓</span><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="5"-->
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### Why not just use a RasPi?
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+ Your Experience **WILL** vary!
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+ No Hardware Accessories
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+ No Network or Multiplayer
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+ Many "Special" Games not working properly
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+ Input Lag
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### Using Emulators
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+ On a PC
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+ On a Raspberry PI
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+ On other Original Retro Hardware
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<span style="color:green"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="2" -->
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Cheap, Easy, Fast, Casual<br>
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ROMs are easy to get</span>
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<span style="color:red"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="3" -->
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Incompatibilities<br>
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Poor Performance<br>
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Input Lag (sometimes)</span>
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ScummVM, Retropie, Retrofitted Consoles, Emulators in e.G. Everdrive for GBA.
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Hassle woth Controllers, Savegames, and Performance.
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Wii, WiiU, Switch Virtual Console (also on PS3,4)
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### Using Original Hardware
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<span style="color:green"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="2" -->
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The Original Experience<br>
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No Compatibility Issues <br>
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Everyone tries to get rid of old TVs<br>
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Less Problems with Handhelds<br></span>
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<span style="color:red"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="3" -->
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Usually small Screens<br>
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Consoles are getting more and more expensive<br>
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Hardware is dying out <br>
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Sucks on Flatscreens (Input Lag)<br></span>
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especially CRT-TVs are Dying out
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more on the "Flatscreen-Problem" later
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### Using Clones
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<span style="color:green"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="2" -->
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Not too far from the Original<br>
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Works great with modern Setups<br>
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Comes bundled with Games<br>
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Works great for Casual Gamers<br></span>
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<span style="color:red"><!-- .element: class="fragment" data-fragment-index="3" -->
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Accessories/Special Hardware not useable<br>
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Limited to Bundled Titles<br>
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Many Problems that Emulators also have<br>
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Did I mention Input Lag?</span>
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accessories MOSTLY not useable
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Many FamiClones
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Official Clones for NES, SNES, Atari VCS (nice one, not released yet, 2600's library and more)
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not-so-official clones for atari2600, nes, wii, c64 (inside controllers)
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multi-clones: retro n(1-3,5) by hyperkin
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### Using <span style="color:green">*modified*</span> Original Hardware
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+ Great boosts in Functionality
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+ Not interesting for Collectors
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+ Mods can make old Goods play together with the new Shit
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+ Old A/V-Connectors become less available (and useable)
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+ If done right: No Input Lag!
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...and old mediums also.
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explain input lag here!
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### So, what Mods are
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### Available and Possible?
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### Popular Mods
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### (Stationary Consoles)
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+ RGB and/or HDMI Output
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+ SD-Card-/HDD-Mods
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+ "Mod-Chips"
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+ Wireless Controllers
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+ Mobilization
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+ The all-time famous <span style="color:blue">blue</span> Power-LED!!
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hdmi with FPGA-Boost!
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...or even Composite for those, who have only RF/HF.
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Mod-Chips for Homebrew/Pirated.
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Like MODBO 5.0 Chip for PS2
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### Popular Mods
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### (Handheld Consoles)
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+ SD-Card-/HDD-Mods
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+ Homebrew-Mods
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+ Case-Modding
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+ Front-/Back-lighted Display
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+ LiPo-Mods and USB
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"Re-Shell"ing.
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Swapping Batteries for LiPos for Charging.
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homebrew mods moslty archiveable by Software only.
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### Other Mods
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+ General Maintenance and Cleaning
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+ Retro-Brighting with H²O²
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+ Replacing rotten Pads
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+ Re-Capping
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+ Changing Power Supplys
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+ Case-Modding and Bodyworks
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broken controls like @n64.
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and other broken parts replacement.
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Powersupply: useful on NES, C64
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### Other Mods (Cont.)
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+ OS-Swap
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+ Region-Lock-Mods
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+ Over-/Under-Clocking
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+ VGA-Mods
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+ S/P-DIF-Mods
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+ Oscillator-Mods
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+ RAM/ROM-Swap
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+ TAS-Bot!
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+ Usage as SoundMachine or for VJs
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VGA on Mobile Consoles.
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tweaking for ntsc and pal.
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sound: DMG and C64, VJ: lomo-mods.
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mono2stero demodulation.
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accessing expansion ports.
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### Ancient Analogue Terminology:
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+ PAL, NTSC, SECAM
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+ Progressive, Interlaced
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+ Deinterlacing
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+ Scanlines
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+ HF/RF
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+ FBAS/Composite
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+ S-Video
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+ Component
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+ RGB, YUV, YPbPr, YCbCr
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Note:
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pal tends to flicker, ntsc color-errors, pal better than secam or ntsc.
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all interlaced (halbbild-zeilensprungverfahren).
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FBAS=Farbbildaustastsyncronsignal
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yuv often wrong labeled and != yPbPr, has different rendering, which has another color-realm as RGB.
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avoid HF,RF, Composite. Use RGB or S-Video. SECAM: France, East-Europe and Africa.
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pal/ntsc only allow up to 480i60 and 576i50, progressive modes only avail. in component, up to 1080p!
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yuv: pal only, yiq: ntsc.
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----
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### Connectors you may Encounter
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+ Cinch/RCA
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+ Phone-Connector
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+ BNC
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+ RF/HF-Antenna-Plug
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+ SCART/JP21
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+ DIN/Mini-DIN
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+ D-Sub 9,15,25
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+ AV-Multi-Out
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Note:
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avoid: RF/HF, Composite. use: RCA, BNC, S-Video. Watch Out on: s-video, SCART.
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d-sub 15 is NOT VGA here, but breakout for component (RGB)! Will not work on Computer Monitors (different Samplerate).
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"Klinkenstecker"
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---
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### Modern Stuff for Old Machines
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+ Multicarts/SD-Mods
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+ Wireless Controllers
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+ Aftermarket-Games/Homebrew
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+ Modded Displays
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+ Customization
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+ Hi-Def-Kits
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+ Hi-Def Upscalers/(Scart)Switchers
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+ Retrode
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Note:
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Nes: RGB,HDMI, SNes: RGB, N64:RBG, HDMI, GC: a plugin-hdmi!
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best example XBMC on xbox.
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Wireless Controllers from 8BitDo
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Custom as in Casemodding.
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open source scan converter, OSSC: <2 input scanlines framebuffer
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Framemeister: 20ms input lag
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Hydra, gScartSW/gcompsw, Selecty21,
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----
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|
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|
<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/hydra.png" -->
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|
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Note:
|
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|
https://www.dragonbox.de/
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|
|
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|
----
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|
|
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|
<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/ossc.png" -->
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|
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|
Note:
|
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|
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OSSC-Open-Source-Scan-Converter-Open-FL.jpg - cc0
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|
|
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|
----
|
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|
|
||
|
<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/ultrahdmi.jpg" -->
|
||
|
|
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|
Note:
|
||
|
https://retroactive.be/
|
||
|
|
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|
---
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Gear Up!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Already hooked up with Retrogaming?<br>
|
||
|
Okay, lets see what goes to the Shopping-List.
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What you Need
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ Your favourite Consoles
|
||
|
+ A Good TV or Projector
|
||
|
+ Must-Have AAA-Titles
|
||
|
+ Titles you owned as a Child
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
avoid 100hZ-TVs, try to get good ones like sony trinitron
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What you don't Need
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ Counterfeits
|
||
|
+ Outdated 3rd-Party-Addons
|
||
|
+ Cases/Carrying Bags
|
||
|
+ Cheap Upscalers/Switches
|
||
|
+ Cheap SCART-Cables
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
Cheap SCART Cables are ALWAYS crap and not full-featured!
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
<img src="/retrotalk/image/fakes/01.jpg"></img>
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
https://blog.tastatursport.de/2018/01/gefaelschte-game-boy-spiele-und-wie-man-sie-erkennt/ - CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
<img src="/retrotalk/image/fakes/02.jpg"></img>
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
https://blog.tastatursport.de/2018/01/gefaelschte-game-boy-spiele-und-wie-man-sie-erkennt/ - CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
<img src="/retrotalk/image/fakes/03.jpg"></img>
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
https://blog.tastatursport.de/2018/01/gefaelschte-game-boy-spiele-und-wie-man-sie-erkennt/ - CC-BY-NC-SA-4.0
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What you Want
|
||
|
#### (if you can afford it)
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ A dedicated Retro-Room
|
||
|
+ HighQuality-Cables
|
||
|
+ Popular Addons and HW
|
||
|
+ Awkward but cool HW
|
||
|
+ Hi-Def Upscalers (and/or Mods)
|
||
|
+ Matrix-Video-Switchers
|
||
|
+ ...for Component in BNC
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
...like super gameboy, gameboy player
|
||
|
gb cam, nes power glove, R.O.B.
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Some Tipps on Buying (used) Retro-Gear
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ Leave Stuff in really bad Condition aside
|
||
|
+ Try to judge the Technical Condition, not just Optically
|
||
|
+ Try to test as much as possible before buying
|
||
|
+ Visit Flea-Markets and Retro-Events
|
||
|
+ Try to Bargain
|
||
|
+ Learn how to Spot Counterfeits!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
Retro-Gaming-Stuff is the Opposite of Uncommon; it's just old.
|
||
|
You will likely be able to hunt down Stuff in good Condition.
|
||
|
bring your own (Mobile) Console and Screwdrivers.
|
||
|
Bargain: Especially on Retro-Markets and Flea-Markets.
|
||
|
Trusty Traders will let you open Cartridges.
|
||
|
|
||
|
---
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What your Setup should look like
|
||
|
|
||
|
...if <= 3 Consoles:
|
||
|
+ Use a normal Flatscreen
|
||
|
+ Try adding HDMI to the Consoles
|
||
|
+ Use a HDMI-Splitter or A/V-Receiver
|
||
|
+ One Device with Component is also OK
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
your TV will likely not support more than one Component-Device
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What your Setup should look like
|
||
|
|
||
|
...if >= 5 Consoles (the Casual Way):
|
||
|
+ Use a quality CRT if Possible
|
||
|
+ Use a HiDef-Scart-Switcher
|
||
|
+ ...or a Matrix-Switcher
|
||
|
+ Relatively Cheap for Composite
|
||
|
+ Try to get one with RCA for Audio!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
A Quality CRT is Key, because they degrade a lot anyways.
|
||
|
On the other Hand even in cheap Setups input Lag will make things unplayable, so avoid using anything but a CRT.
|
||
|
Hunt down Surperior Video-Editing Equipment on eBay. This comes in handy!
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What your Setup should look like
|
||
|
|
||
|
...if >= 5 Consoles (the Premium Way):
|
||
|
+ Use a quality CRT if Possible (with Component!)
|
||
|
+ ...or Flatscreen (more complicated, more expensive!)
|
||
|
+ Try to use/add Component where possible
|
||
|
+ Use a HiDef-Upscaler
|
||
|
+ Use a HiDef-Scart-Switcher
|
||
|
+ ...or a Matrix-Switcher
|
||
|
+ ideally for Component in BNC
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
a Flatscreen-setup cost a ton of money, but looks awesome. depends on taste, scanlines...
|
||
|
will get expensive anyways, when aiming for quality.
|
||
|
Don't Expect Setup beeing completed quickly.
|
||
|
Many Components requiring hunting them down on the long run!
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
<!-- .slide: data-background-image="/retrotalk/image/avswitcher.png" -->
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
https://www.kramerav.com/
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### What your Setup should look like
|
||
|
|
||
|
...regarding Mobile Consoles:
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ Mobile Consoles are way less Complicated to use
|
||
|
+ Perfect for Collectors
|
||
|
+ Cool Mods available (play in the Dark!)
|
||
|
+ No Region-Lock or Resolution Issues
|
||
|
+ Still Fun on the Go!
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
especially when using Standard AA/AAA-Batteries
|
||
|
Mobile Consoles still relatively Cheap (even thou Games aren't)
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Final words on this
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ evaluate what floats your Boat:
|
||
|
+ Cheap and easy
|
||
|
+ As Premium as possible
|
||
|
+ evaluate if SD-Cartridges may be the right choice for you
|
||
|
+ Try to stay EITHER on SCART or Component
|
||
|
+ Treat Audio seperately
|
||
|
+ Disable TV "Enhancements"
|
||
|
+ Get Region-Lock-Free Adapters
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
...but aware Cheap Multicarts due to lack of Features!
|
||
|
Best tv-setting is usually "Game"
|
||
|
and watch out for different cart-sizes!
|
||
|
Lightguns only work on CRTs!
|
||
|
|
||
|
---
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Funny Things you've never heard of
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ Nintendo PlayStation
|
||
|
+ Four-Score, Sattelite, Zapper-Gun, Advantage Joystick
|
||
|
+ GameBoy Player, Super GameBoy
|
||
|
+ Light Player
|
||
|
+ Super NES Mouse
|
||
|
+ GameBoy Camera & Printer
|
||
|
+ Tremor Pak
|
||
|
+ 64DD
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Some Links
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ https://www.retroboerse.de/
|
||
|
+ http://forums.modretro.com/
|
||
|
+ https://shmups.system11.org/
|
||
|
+ http://retrorgb.com/
|
||
|
+ https://www.videogameperfection.com/
|
||
|
|
||
|
Notes:
|
||
|
retrorgb and videogameperfection have good explanations, but they're also a store
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Even more Links (Stores)
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ https://www.dragonbox.de/ (Accessories, German Store)
|
||
|
+ https://stoneagegamer.com/ (Multicarts)
|
||
|
+ https://voultar.com/ (modding PCBs)
|
||
|
+ https://www.game-tech.us/ (RGB and HDMI Modkits)
|
||
|
+ https://www.retromodding.com/ (Handheld-Modding and Multicarts)
|
||
|
+ http://www.gretrostuff.com (home of gcompsw and gscartws)
|
||
|
+ https://retro-access.com/ (HQ Scart-Cables)
|
||
|
+ https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/ (HQ Scart-Cables, Custom Cables)
|
||
|
|
||
|
Note:
|
||
|
8bitDO, own shop?
|
||
|
|
||
|
----
|
||
|
|
||
|
### ...And some Youtube-Channels to Watch
|
||
|
|
||
|
+ AGDQ/SGDQ
|
||
|
+ The Ben Heck Show
|
||
|
+ Nintendrew
|
||
|
+ Metal Jesus Rocks
|
||
|
+ My Life in Gaming
|
||
|
|
||
|
---
|
||
|
|
||
|
## Conclusion
|
||
|
|
||
|
### Thank you for being Retro!
|
||
|
|
||
|
<span style="color:cyan">zeus@ctdo.de</span>
|
||
|
|
||
|
https://tastatursport.de/
|
||
|
|
||
|
@zeus86
|
||
|
|
||
|
**ChaosBBQ2018**
|
||
|
|